I doubt it will have to do with prices in your area, but here I charge a flat rate of 500 per load, the self load trucks haul smaller loads, but charge a little more.I oculd stay busier if I would haul for the sawmill itself, but their rates are too cheap, so they pretty much have to haul everything they can on their own trucks.My shortest haul is more like 40 miles, and 18 miles of that is off road, so I would adjust the rates accordingly if I had anything close.Whatever your rates are, I pretty much figure I need to be able to run 1000 bucks a day to keep above water, I doubt the daily amount would vary much around the country.
Out here its based on mileage rather then tonnage, truck cost the same to drive loaded or not. Maybe a bit more fuel mileage one way or the other, end of the day is doesn't make much difference.But starmac is about correct 1k a day or stay home, tonnage, insurance, tires, fuel, maintenance... all take their toll and quick too.20mi trips seem short to me? but all our mills are sorta concentrated in a few areas.2k bf I am assuming this is a straight truck no trailer running short logs?Anyway 20 mile trips=.5hr one way, .5 hour to load, .5 hour to unload, .5 hour back. your into it 2 hours per trip if everything goes well... (just go ahead and assume it won't)... so more like 3 hours per trip, so to make 3 loads your looking at a 9 hour day, every day...and at $110 per load that puts you in the nice fat... $330 in 9 hours...Still wanna drive a log truck?In reality you need to charge a bit more, like 200-250 a trip minimum and then cross yer fingers and hope you get that 4th load a day in.
We recently paid $225 per load; our woodlot to Willamina. It was well-worth it considering what the self loader can do plus, the owner-operator took the time (off the clock) to teach me a few things regarding the logging industry, and he even opened his book of industry contacts to help me better manage our woodlot.That means a lot for people like me (low collectivism/high individuality index) who don't know W.T.H. they are doing.I'll definately call him next time.
Quote from: FarrarTrucking on June 15, 2015, 12:55:11 PMMy husband is in the process of buying a log truck and starting his own business.We are struggling with coming up with some sort of price sheet.Currently 1 person(the log buyer) we have talked to pays their(independently hired) drivers by the thousand and distance traveled. for example: 0-8miles = $50 per thousand (a load of 2000bf = $100), 9-16 miles = $55 per thousand, and so on.... I'm assuming they only pay for loaded miles. For my husband it is going to be somewhat of a drive to get to any of our area mills/landings (probably 20 miles at least). So we are trying to figure out a competitive wage and not loose out on getting compensation for fuel. We plan on going around and talking to all the Amish mills (that's the majority in our area) and finding out what other drivers charge. But any advice from here would be greatly appreciated! ;DWe are located in SW Wisconsin.welcome to the forum and where are you? here it will cost 2-250 for a 40 mile trip. semi and a legal load or slightly over ;)
The buyers take care of all the trucking weather logs/firewood so l'm not sure but could ask. Pulp is priced by the radius miles of the mill. You could call around and ask. Just a thought. Best of luck with the truck and welcome to the ff.
The going rate around here is $3.50 per loaded mile for contract hauling.
We are paying $50/mbf for pine logs hauled 14 miles to the mill and $60/mbf for hardwood logs hauled 25 miles to the mill. The trucker buys the pulp on the header and we get 50% on the pine pulp all hardwood pulp goes as firewood for $70/cord.
The last that I had hauled was $350 for a 23 mile haul. 16 of those miles is down a 6% grade though.Oh yeah, that was one self loader, and another truck that the self loader loaded hauling 41' logs. Hmm, does that mean that it's not just a self loader anymore? ;)
I just paid 250 a load on a boom truck .2800 b.f. a loadwalnut..40 miles to mill
I paid 225,000 for my truck and loader! That was in 2013! My price starts at 55 per thousand and up from there! Been hauling some pine logs over 100 miles one way, getting 85.00.
I get a minimum of $100 per hour from the time i leave my driveway until i get back. Never had much luck hauling by the thousand, loggers would call and never be ready. Id have to sit waiting for them to buck up or even pull another hitch. By the hour they make sure things are ready before i get there and if not I'm getting paid for my time. My truck is a self loader tri axle.
We get ten cents a board foot that figures out to about three hundred dollars for my loaded truck plus the pup trailer.
Supply and demand always work, I would be more interested first if there is any real demand for trucking. Most loggers are loyal to their truckers and are not going to just jump ship because there is new guy in town charging a little less.I haul only my wood and can't see how anyone can make a dollar hauling logs. we do about 15 loads or so a week and I have yet to ever have a week where there was money left over from trucking, my driver is well paid the truck is kept up as far as repairs and maintenance by the time I pay for fuel there is just about nothing left over. I haul my wood for convenience and most of the spots I go I have to unload myself. I do a lot with the Amish and Mennonites.My last load to Wagner Lumber paid me $126.00 for 3100 feet. Clearly Wagner does not need to have haul logs hauled even if they are your own.Owning a truck is the only real way to stay independent, being able to shift markets and get top dollar for your wood products is the key to making money. I would see what kind of markets you might be able to offer the loggers in your area that would give them few extra dollars for their product. The other way to make money trucking is by buying road side from loggers and selling it yourself. It is a complex business with a razor edge for profit.
I have a question for those that haul logs. So I have property in East Texas in the middle of planted pine forests that are regularly logged. I have been looking to purchase air or kiln dried D logs to build a small cabin. The closet mills I could find that cut them are in Georgia and TN. Strange but what do you do? So I enquired about getting said milled logs to my property and dropped off but apparently the drivers for milled logs won't go on my road, let alone up my driveway. It was suggested I find someone to transfer the logs to other truck(s) and then have them deliver the logs. How do I go about finding either a closer mill or someone that will haul and drop off milled d logs to my property? Any other suggestions gratefully accepted.
SusanCWelcome to the Forestry Forum.What lengths of D logs are you trying to get delivered?Hopefully one or more of the many Forestry Forum members will have some helpful suggestions.Click on your username and put a better approximate location where in East Texas.
The last loads of pine and hemlock I had trucked last fall were $70/1000 bf to mills about 25-40 miles away.This was before fuel prices spiked so I imagine it will be higher now.Some of the mills are actually paying a premium for logs to help loggers cover the added trucking cost.
I think youd be better off buying locally sourced logs and having a custom sawyer come out to cut the D flat for you. Peel and router the crack groove yourself.The freight cost @$5/g is going to be massive.
Quote from: SusanC on April 06, 2022, 10:45:53 PMI have a question for those that haul logs. So I have property in East Texas in the middle of planted pine forests that are regularly logged. I have been looking to purchase air or kiln dried D logs to build a small cabin. The closet mills I could find that cut them are in Georgia and TN. Strange but what do you do? So I enquired about getting said milled logs to my property and dropped off but apparently the drivers for milled logs won't go on my road, let alone up my driveway. It was suggested I find someone to transfer the logs to other truck(s) and then have them deliver the logs. How do I go about finding either a closer mill or someone that will haul and drop off milled d logs to my property? Any other suggestions gratefully accepted.@Bindian
Quote from: SusanC on April 06, 2022, 10:45:53 PMI have a question for those that haul logs. So I have property in East Texas in the middle of planted pine forests that are regularly logged. I have been looking to purchase air or kiln dried D logs to build a small cabin. The closet mills I could find that cut them are in Georgia and TN. Strange but what do you do? So I enquired about getting said milled logs to my property and dropped off but apparently the drivers for milled logs won't go on my road, let alone up my driveway. It was suggested I find someone to transfer the logs to other truck(s) and then have them deliver the logs. How do I go about finding either a closer mill or someone that will haul and drop off milled d logs to my property? Any other suggestions gratefully accepted.SusanC,Welcome to FF. Where is your property located? I am planning on getting cedar D shaped logs from American Cedar Mill in Evening Shade, Arkansas.As to local truckers, that can haul to your house, contact your local lumber yards to ask for leads for a trucker. Maybe ask the local truck rental yards if they know of someone who can rent a truck and meet your "log" truck coming from out of state. Bare in mind, the transfer will also involve some type of forklift or telehandler to transfer the logs and unload at your property.Maybe you can rent the truck and drive it!Good luck.hugs, Brandi
Quote from: btulloh on April 07, 2022, 08:34:06 AMQuote from: SusanC on April 06, 2022, 10:45:53 PMI have a question for those that haul logs. So I have property in East Texas in the middle of planted pine forests that are regularly logged. I have been looking to purchase air or kiln dried D logs to build a small cabin. The closet mills I could find that cut them are in Georgia and TN. Strange but what do you do? So I enquired about getting said milled logs to my property and dropped off but apparently the drivers for milled logs won't go on my road, let alone up my driveway. It was suggested I find someone to transfer the logs to other truck(s) and then have them deliver the logs. How do I go about finding either a closer mill or someone that will haul and drop off milled d logs to my property? Any other suggestions gratefully accepted.@BindianMessage received. Thanks!hugs, Brandi